When John
Waller resurfaced on the Christian music scene, it was completely
orchestrated by God. John walked through open doors he would have never
imagined, and through it all, he was obedient to God’s call. One of his
blessings is a ten-track collection of songs – The Blessing -
crying out the glory to God. It’s one of the most powerful and potent
records of the year, embracing the true elements of God’s Grace set to
an infectious musical array of swirling sounds destined to top the
charts.
Waller’s
journey and blessings are a testimony of God’s Grace and Discernment.
John Waller tried to break into the music scene with success in the
past, and he caught a glimpse of it, but he had no idea how the
blessings would flow once he entirely focused on the Cross.
We can
learn a lot from John’s walk.
I love your story, I love what Christ has done for you. Let’s go back
to your journey from Fayetteville, Georgia to Colorado.
I spent 14
years doing music, touring, traveling, making records, and trying to
break into the music scene. It really never happened the way I thought
it would. I was in a band called, According to John, and you know, God
really used that band a lot. He changed a lot of people’s hearts and a
lot of people’s lives through our ministry, but I was really trying to
do it my way, I was kinda like, ‘this is what I wanna do, this is the
way it needs to look, so Lord, I just want you to bless it,’ you know?
So I just did my thing, and I think God used me in spite of me.
Sometimes God does that - we may not be walking in His perfect will, and
yet His grace prevails and He uses us in spite of us.
At the end
of those 14 years, the doors kept closing. I mean I got turned down by
every label in Nashville. Some of them turned me down two or three
times, and after the last time we got turned down we said, ‘you know
what, we just need to lay it down,’ and so we disbanded.
I got a
call from a friend who said ‘I’m planting a church in Colorado, we’re
moving out there and I want to fly you out there and see what you think
about the area and let me give you the vision for the church.’
So he cast
the vision with us. I had never been on staff at a church and was
somewhat disconnected from the church because I traveled so much, and so
God called us out there so we accepted the call and moved our family,
two kids at the time, now we have three. We didn’t know anyone out
there except the pastor and his family.
We started
a church and it was an amazing journey to see what God did. I realized
what God’s heartbeat is, His heart for the church, that’s His bride,
He’s committed to it above all. And so I began to start using my gifts,
you know, not just my ability to lead people to the Throne of God and
worship, but to write songs that speak truth into people’s lives.
I didn’t
write for the first year because I was kind of healing from the wound of
the dream coming to the end. And so after that year was over the Lord
said, ‘Mourning’s over, it’s time to write and to bear witness to what
I’ve done in you.’ So I began to write songs for them.
And
isn’t it interesting that when you decided to surrender, God gave it to
you. John, I don’t think people understand the true immensity of
blessings that are out
there for us.
You know I
have a good illustration for that. When I moved to Colorado, the only
thing I could do on the computer was I could send an email and I could
write a Word document. The church got me a Mac so I started doing video
editing, I starting creating music on the computer, stuff I’d never
dreamed I would do I was doing on this computer.
One day, I
needed to burn a DVD, I had just done a video for the church and I
needed to burn a DVD, but I didn’t have any way to burn it, there was no
program on the computer. So I went to this store, and it was going to
cost me about $150 to buy this program to burn DVD’s. And the guy says,
‘Hey man, what kind of a computer do you have?’ And I said, ‘a Mac G5,’
and he said, ‘you should have a program to burn DVD’s on that, I mean
it’s a Mac G5, it comes with all that.’ I’m like, ‘no, there’s nothing
there.’
He talked
me out of buying the program; I was going to buy the program. So I got
home and got the start-up disc out, put it in there, and it said, ‘to
install the following programs, check the box.’ Well the one with the
DVD burner was not checked. I had it, it was mine, it belonged to me.
Did it benefit me at all? Absolutely not, but I owned it.
We go looking elsewhere to try to fill
those voids that God can fulfill with His promises and His blessings
because we don’t realize that we’ve already got it! That’s powerful.
When
you look back, John, do you look back in disbelief or a little bit of
sadness about the idea of maybe you could have had this a long time ago,
or do you know that this is exactly what God’s plan was for you because
you’ve been refined and cleansed.
The answer
to both of those questions is yes because I do look back sometimes and
think of the sadness of if I’d only understood some of the truths that I
understand now, it would have made all the difference, and yet, I look
at God’s promise and I really cling to Romans 8:28 that God works all
things together forthe good for those who love Him and are
called according to His purpose, so everything that I’ve done, none
of it’s wasted, absolutely none of it’s wasted. He’s still using it
today. A girl came up to me the other day, I did a youth minister’s
luncheon in Missouri, at Six Flags, and I was sharing my story and I
said I was in a band called According to John, and I heard someone out
of my peripheral go, ahhhhhhhh, and afterwards she stood in line to meet
me and she said, ‘You guys had a song called She’s in Love and
that song was my life song, it changed my life.’ She goes, ‘I didn’t
date because I chose to be in love with Jesus and just to date Jesus
because of that song and here’s my husband, he’s a youth pastor and
we’re in ministry together.’
I mean
it’s like, you know what? Yes we do mess up, but God takes the bad, He
takes the good. He doesn’t orchestrate the bad, He doesn’t orchestrate
the stuff where we messed up, but He’ll take it and He’ll work it
together for our good on such a level that we think He did it all, you
know, and He didn’t do it all, we make our own decisions, but God can
still take it and work it together for our good, it’s awesome.
How did
you come up with the concept of The Blessing?
It came
because I understood cursing; I’ve seen the effects of cursing. When
someone says, ‘Hey, you can’t do anything right,’ that’s a curse.
Speaking something over you and if you receive it, it will shape the way
you think and it will shape the way you are, so that’s a curse.
A blessing
is, you know, you are fully accepted in Christ, or there are Biblical
blessings like ‘May the Lord Bless You and Keep You.’
If our
words when they’re negative are so powerful that they can literally mold
a life for the negative, ruin a life by verbal abuse and curses, how
much more, if we speak a blessing, if we understand the Old Testament
blessings, in Deuteronomy 28, there’s a list of blessings that are all
ours in Christ because he met all the requirements of the law. So
because He did that perfectly, we have all those blessings that are
listed. So I pray them out loud, I say, ‘Lord, this is mine because of
what Jesus did.’ I speak those over my children, makes all the
difference in the world.
We have
those blessings because Christ died for us.
Yes we do.
I have a song called Identity, and the life I had is gone, I’m
crucified with Christ, I don’t live anymore. He lives in me, my life is
in Him, and if this is true about Him it’s true about me. If He’s love,
peace, joy, patience, kindness, gentleness, goodness, faithfulness, and
self-control, that’s who I am in Christ. You know, in my flesh, who I
was, doesn’t deserve it. Who I am now does deserve it.
I think
a blessing for you was when you were in the audience during last year’s
Casting Crowns Lifesong Tour.
Yes, Mark
(Hall) sang on The Blessing and he gave us tickets to the show.
And then
one of the many blessings . . .
Yes, I had
no idea that when I watched that tour from the audience, and it was an
awesome show. I never even dreamed that they would include me in their
next tour. I was a little uneasy when I was in the audience. I just
had a lot of feelings about my future, and little did I know that God
was already at work, orchestrating His perfect timing, and once again,
sending me a tremendous blessing.
And
you’ll be on the upcoming Casting Crowns tour with Leeland as well.
What a
blessing!
God can
heel everything, can’t He?
He can
indeed. When I was 12 my mother spoke over me, she told me, ‘John,
you’re a manic depressive like me,’ and my grandmother was the same. I
had a girlfriend of two weeks, my first girlfriend. I was 12. She broke
up with me at church for another guy. It was devastating rejection and
spiritual rejection for the first time, I was down, I was depressed. My
mother saw that too and she spoke that over me.
I believed
it, I took it for her word, you know, she was my mother, she didn’t mean
anything by it, she wasn’t trying to harm me, it’s what she knew. So
that stronghold was imparted to me in that moment and I struggled with
it for 20 years. I was on medication for 20 years for depression.
Finally,
at the end of that 20 years, someone challenged my thinking and said,
‘this is not the life that Jesus died to bring me, the life here and
now,’ and so they prayed over me and I didn’t go off my medication at
one time, it was a process, but I received God’s healing and I said,
‘Lord, please heal me,’ and I received it the best way that I knew how
and over time, something was different. When I went to Colorado,
something was different.
One day I
said to my pastor, ‘God healed me, I feel different,’ and I began to
slowly wean myself off the medication because I just felt like I didn’t
need it. I felt my brain was producing Serotonin the right way.
And so He
did, He healed me, I’m a testimony.
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